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On gravitational frequency shift derived from energy conservation

 
Ministero dell'Istruzione, dell'Università e della Ricerca, Albano Laziale, RM, Italy

In physics, thought experiments are impressive heuristic tools. They are valuable instruments to help scientists find new results and to teach students known ones. However, as we shall show, they should always be accepted cautiously, even when they are a shortcut to 'prove' well-established results. Here, we show that the most widely known thought experiments devised to derive the gravitational frequency shift from energy conservation are, in fact, problematic. When properly set and correctly read, these thought experiments reveal that the existence of the gravitational frequency shift is, in fact, at odds with energy conservation. We also propose two new simple thought experiments, one using energy conservation and the other the conservation of linear momentum, that corroborate that conclusion, showing that these conservation principles do not imply a gravitational frequency shift. Our results may be of some epistemological interest and could serve as a warning sign on how thought experiments should be accepted and trusted.

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Correspondence should be addressed to  germano.dabramo@gmail.com
Keywords: special relativity, general relativity, gravitational frequency shift, conservation of energy, linear momentum conservation, thought experiments
PACS: 03.30.+p, 45.20.df, 45.20.dh, 98.62.Py (all)
DOI: 10.3367/UFNe.2024.10.039774
URL: https://ufn.ru/en/articles/2025/1/f/
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Citation: D’Abramo G "On gravitational frequency shift derived from energy conservation" Phys. Usp. 68 87–93 (2025)
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Received: 13th, February 2024, revised: 16th, July 2024, 9th, October 2024

Оригинал: Д’Абрамо Д «О выводе гравитационного сдвига частоты из закона сохранения энергии» УФН 195 94–100 (2025); DOI: 10.3367/UFNr.2024.10.039774

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